{"id":75870,"date":"2023-03-20T17:52:03","date_gmt":"2023-03-20T15:52:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forklog.com\/en\/?p=75870"},"modified":"2025-09-10T14:05:19","modified_gmt":"2025-09-10T11:05:19","slug":"defi-llama-team-forks-project-llama-fi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/u1f987.com\/en\/defi-llama-team-forks-project-llama-fi\/","title":{"rendered":"DeFi Llama team forks project llama.fi"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A developer of the DeFi Llama analytics platform, writing under the pseudonym 0xngmi, on behalf of the team announced the launch of a fork of the project named llama.fi.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-lang=\"en\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">The DefiLlama team is forking Defillama<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/DefiLlama?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@Defillama<\/a> is undergoing a hostile takeover<\/p>\n<p>There is an ongoing attempt to launch a token that does not represent us. We don&#8217;t want to be associated with it<\/p>\n<p>Use <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/G0h4uBo2mL\">https:\/\/t.co\/G0h4uBo2mL<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/llamadotfi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@llamadotfi<\/a> instead!<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 0xngmi (llamazip arc) (@0xngmi) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/0xngmi\/status\/1637425043482222599?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">March 19, 2023<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> <script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>He cited disagreement with the decision to issue the platform&#8217;s token, which was made by \u201cthe person who controls the Twitter account and the Defillama domain.\u201d<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>\u00abThe attempt to launch a token that does not represent us continues. We don&#8217;t want to be associated with it\u00bb, \u2014 the developer said.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>In response, the owner of the llamaintern account, described as an intern at DeFi Llama:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>\u00ab0xngmi and several members of the team have become scammers. They actively seek to seize the IP and the Defillama community, incorrectly claiming that the rightful owner is conducting a hostile takeover\u00bb.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-lang=\"en\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">0xngmi and a few team members have gone rogue, they are actively looking to seize Defillama IP and community while inaccurately claiming the rightful owner to be doing a hostile takeover <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/rc5Fx68KD4\">https:\/\/t.co\/rc5Fx68KD4<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u2014 LlamaIntern.eth (@llamaintern) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/llamaintern\/status\/1637436675868745729?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">March 19, 2023<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> <script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>Some community members sided with DeFi Llama founders Charlie Watkinson and Ben Hauser. Andre Cronje, founder of yEarn.finance <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/AndreCronjeTech\/status\/1637463174340390912\">\u043d\u0430\u043f\u0438\u0441\u0430\u043b<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>\u00abIt&#8217;s easy to stick to ideology when you don&#8217;t pay the bills. Charlie has been funding all the project&#8217;s expenses out of his own pocket for many years, it&#8217;s not cheap\u00bb.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>According to him, Watkinson&#8217;s idea to issue a token is \u201cnot greed, but an attempt to achieve sustainability\u201d.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>\u00abLet&#8217;s see how long they will last without funding. They will soon start seeking financing or add advertising\u00bb, \u2014 Cronje said.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Web3 developer going by the nickname AnonBuilder noted that paying the bills does not cancel the team&#8217;s work.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-conversation=\"none\" data-lang=\"en\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">He has been paying the bills, but the rest of the team has been doing the work and contributing their time and dedication. Just because he wants to stop the bleeding doesn&#8217;t mean he has the right to put the whole project at risk. But that&#8217;s something that seems not important to\u2026 <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/XZliygxHsN\">https:\/\/t.co\/XZliygxHsN<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u2014 AnonBuilder (?, ?) (@anonbuilderok) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/anonbuilderok\/status\/1637519070827278336?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">March 19, 2023<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> <script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>\u00abTo, \u0447\u0442\u043e \u043e\u043d [\u043e\u0441\u043d\u043e\u0432\u0430\u0442\u0435\u043b\u044c] \u0445\u043e\u0447\u0435\u0442 \u043e\u0441\u0442\u0430\u043d\u043e\u0432\u0438\u0442\u044c \u0438\u0441\u0442\u043e\u0449\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0435 \u0441\u0440\u0435\u0434\u0441\u0442\u0432, \u043d\u0435 \u043e\u0437\u043d\u0430\u0447\u0430\u0435\u0442 \u0435\u0433\u043e \u043f\u0440\u0430\u0432\u043e \u043f\u043e\u0434\u0432\u0435\u0440\u0433\u0430\u0442\u044c \u0440\u0438\u0441\u043a\u0443 \u0432\u0435\u0441\u044c \u043f\u0440\u043e\u0435\u043a\u0442\u00bb, \u2014 \u0434\u043e\u0431\u0430\u0432\u0438\u043b \u043e\u043d.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Uniswap founder Hayden Adams reminded that the DeFi dashboard platform began about three years ago as a fork of the information platform behind the largest DEX. He noted that he had to press the founders to abandon the use of the original OSS.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-conversation=\"none\" data-lang=\"en\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">The domain, brand, etc are IP but obviously not open source (nor should they be) and I would guess parts of the backend<\/p>\n<p>Originally started as a fork of our GPL info site. I remember pressuring it to go OSS years ago, which they did <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/v7CK6AqwSm\">https:\/\/t.co\/v7CK6AqwSm<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u2014 hayden.eth ? (@haydenzadams) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/haydenzadams\/status\/1637454046301700096?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">March 19, 2023<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> <script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>As of writing, the llama.fi site is live, presenting an exact copy of DeFi Llama.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/lh5.googleusercontent.com\/vMHTOQaTCS4-ZMG7AilIn8VK9zZ7oic-m-WgNkBhSBtZhtqi7CIs0A-xYRf1IP2-xsecN6jU124gC5GTRIjVHEFAvKG-o-nIxANrVe7nV...\" alt=\"DeFi Llama team forks project llama.fi\"\/><figcaption>Data: llama.fi.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>\u00abWhen there is no company behind it, but a bunch of anonymous people, then none of them really owns the brand\u00bb, \u2014 noted the founder of the DeFi project Rotki, Lefteris Karapetsas.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-conversation=\"none\" data-lang=\"en\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">When there is no company behind it, but a bunch of anons then none really holds the brand.<\/p>\n<p>Which brings the question of ownership of domain too as indeed something that could be seen as IP.<\/p>\n<p>Defillama has any org behind it? I remember seeing this: <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/Uz59bagy3B\">https:\/\/t.co\/Uz59bagy3B<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Lefteris Karapetsas | Hiring for @rotkiapp (@LefterisJP) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/LefterisJP\/status\/1637455281150992384?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">March 19, 2023<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> <script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>In 2020, one of the sector\u2019s notable events was the launch of the Uniswap fork SushiSwap. At the time, the leading DeFi platform <a href=\"https:\/\/u1f987.com\/en\/news\/uniswap-loses-70-of-liquidity-due-to-asset-migration-to-the-sushiswap-fork\">lost more than 70% of liquidity<\/a> due to migration to a competing protocol.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A developer of the DeFi Llama analytics platform, writing under the pseudonym 0xngmi, on behalf of the team announced the launch of a fork of the project named llama.fi.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":75871,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"select":"1","news_style_id":"1","cryptorium_level":"","_short_excerpt_text":"","creation_source":"","_metatest_mainpost_news_update":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[1093,268],"class_list":["post-75870","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-news-and-analysis","tag-defi","tag-hardfork"],"aioseo_notices":[],"amp_enabled":true,"views":"40","promo_type":"1","layout_type":"1","short_excerpt":"","is_update":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/u1f987.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/75870","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/u1f987.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/u1f987.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/u1f987.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/u1f987.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=75870"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/u1f987.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/75870\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":75872,"href":"https:\/\/u1f987.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/75870\/revisions\/75872"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/u1f987.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/75871"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/u1f987.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=75870"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/u1f987.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=75870"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/u1f987.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=75870"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}