{"id":6945,"date":"2019-10-21T06:00:08","date_gmt":"2019-10-21T03:00:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forklog.media\/?p=6945"},"modified":"2020-01-10T13:03:38","modified_gmt":"2020-01-10T11:03:38","slug":"according-to-ceo-of-bitcoin-com-btc-is-gold-bsv-is-scam-and-bch-is-money","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/u1f987.com\/en\/according-to-ceo-of-bitcoin-com-btc-is-gold-bsv-is-scam-and-bch-is-money\/","title":{"rendered":"According to CEO of Bitcoin.com, BTC is Gold, BSV is Scam, and BCH is Money"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The recently <a href=\"https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/stefan-rust-appointed-as-new-chief-executive-officer-of-bitcoin-com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">appointed<\/a> CEO of Bitcoin.com Stefan Rust learned about Bitcoin in 2012, when a developer from Guatemala asked him to pay in BTC. Unlike many early adopters, Rust didn\u2019t think it was a nonsense at the time.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>&#8220;Instant with no fees. I transferred bitcoins to that guy during a Skype call. Live in real time&#8221;.<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In winter 2013 Rust then organized a first bitcoin meetup in Hong Kong in a local bar\/restaurant. It was standing room only with people listening and watching from outside in. The whole bar was fully packed.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>&#8220;I\u2019ve loved Bitcoin from that day on&#8221;.<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Before joining Bitcoin.com, a controversial website owned by Roger Ver, Stefan Rust co-founded a non-bitcoin startup Exicon to provide major corporations like Sony, Oracle and Qualcomm with developer and application management services.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>&#8220;I joined Bitcoin.com in February and secured three deals in two months. Then Roger asked me to become a CEO&#8221;.<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In an exclusive interview with ForkLog Stefan Rust shares his views on Bitcoin vs Bitcoin Cash controversy, reveals his thoughts about Bitcoin SV and Craig Wright and explains why he decided to move his wealth from BTC to BCH.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_6950\" style=\"width: 830px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-6950\" class=\"wp-image-6950 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/u1f987.com\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/75c073a7-ff8a-4fbc-a307-1a30163ecc30-e1571594786390.jpeg\" alt=\"According to CEO of Bitcoin.com, BTC is Gold, BSV is Scam, and BCH is Money\" width=\"820\" height=\"513\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-6950\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Ver and Rust via news.bitcoin.com<\/p><\/div>\n<p><strong>ForkLog: If you had to choose between BTC and BCH to invest 90% of your wealth for two years, what coin would you choose?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Stefan<\/strong>: Bitcoin Cash for sure. Most of my wealth is in BCH now. I moved it from BTC.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ForkLog: Bitcoin.com offers me to buy BCH and something that is called Bitcoin Core. By the looks of it, Bitcoin Cash is positioned as the real Bitcoin, which could be misleading for the newbies.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Stefan<\/strong>: I personally don\u2019t think it\u2019s that misleading. When people come to Bitcoin, they usually want to make a small investment. They want to test it out and feel it. They\u2019re not gonna come with $1 ml to buy BCH with their credit card. They will come with $100 or $500, maybe $1000. Bitcoin Cash is a lot more affordable to buy a whole unit or two or four. That\u2019s the early entry into it.<\/p>\n<p>We believe that Bitcoin Cash is more like peer-to-peer cash system.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ForkLog: It\u2019s a &#8220;yes or no&#8221; question. Do you consider Bitcoin Cash a store of value?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Stefan<\/strong>: As well, yes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ForkLog: And what about the payments?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Stefan<\/strong>: [<em>laughing<\/em>] Of course, it\u2019s a store of value. Every currency and cryptocurrency has a percentage of a store of value. I view Bitcoin Core [BTC or Bitcoin] as gold and Bitcoin Cash as money.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ForkLog: If everyone holds BCH, who will use it for payments?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Stefan<\/strong>: We <a href=\"https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/simple-ledger-token-creation-platform-launches-on-the-bch-network\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">introduced<\/a> a Simple Ledger Protocol, which allows you to create tokens for special purposes, interests and communities. If you want to keep BCH, create a currency and build a value around it, make it popular for payments within a community.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ForkLog: Bitcoin.com says BCH is for payments and you say I need to build a token over the protocol to make payments. That could be really hard for newbies to understand.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Stefan<\/strong>: It\u2019s definitely not for newbies. We are talking more about developers and enthusiasts, who are not gonna be newbies anymore. They want to trade it and participate in value creation.<\/p>\n<p>Today you can already buy coffee, pay for your hotels, haircuts and taxi fares using Bitcoin Cash. It\u2019s real payments to retailers who want low fees and fast transactions. To scale though for the immediate short term, retailers do want to settle in fiat in existing bank accounts as they don\u2019t like the volatility. This will change over time.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ForkLog: For the last couple of years Roger Ver has been repeating that \u201cBitcoin Cash is real Bitcoin\u201d mantra. To make things clear, do you agree with it?<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">Being the chain originating from the genesis block with the highest accumulated proof of work is only one of the metrics that makes Bitcoin Bitcoin.<br \/>\nEdit and decide for yourself which has more Bitcoin-ness: <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/lldt4n2W4C\">https:\/\/t.co\/lldt4n2W4C<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/FnZGye39cF\">pic.twitter.com\/FnZGye39cF<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Roger Ver (@rogerkver) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/rogerkver\/status\/989861695215484928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">April 27, 2018<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p><strong>Stefan<\/strong>: I started in BTC back in 2012. A lot of the team that joined Bitcoin.com also started in BTC. We are all now in BCH. So I think that can tell you what our view is.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ForkLog: Say this!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Stefan<\/strong>: Yeah, I definitely think that Bitcoin Cash is the p2p electronic cash system that the world and I am looking for.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ForkLog: Because it reflects the <a href=\"https:\/\/bitcoin.org\/bitcoin.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">white paper<\/a> idea?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Stefan<\/strong>: It meets the core principles of building p2p cash system. Instant payments with no fees. I can\u2019t do this in Bitcoin Core [BTC or Bitcoin].<\/p>\n<p><strong>ForkLog: If you strictly follow the white paper, it makes the project centralized around the idea of one man. It has to be a p2p cash system and nothing else. Don\u2019t you agree with this? Could there be risks to decentralization by excluding experiments out of the concept?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Stefan<\/strong>: There are up to 60 ml people in crypto. We have 7 bl people on the planet. How are we going to get the rest of the people decide which cryptocurrency they want to buy? It\u2019s not about us and you and me. We\u2019ve already made our decisions. We\u2019ve already invested.<\/p>\n<p>We need to convince 6 bl people to come into and choose if they want BTC or BCH. If you want Ethereum go ahead and buy it. It\u2019s a democracy. If you don\u2019t like it, I\u2019m OK with that.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ForkLog: Do you agree that p2p cash system must be censorship resistant?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Stefan<\/strong>: Definitely.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ForkLog: Bitcoin Cash hashrate is a little over 2 EH\/s right now and Bitcoin\u2019s is over 87 Eh\/s. The latter is more secure network, isn\u2019t it?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Stefan<\/strong>: But the network runs the same centralized software stack build by one single entity.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ForkLog: It\u2019s just democracy.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Stefan<\/strong>: Exactly, they all chose it, but it\u2019s centralized. In Bitcoin Cash miners can choose among six software stacks to run.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ForkLog: I think they won the market competition [in Bitcoin].<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Stefan<\/strong>: In essence the miners decide what software they want to run.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ForkLog: And most miners decided to stay on Bitcoin.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Stefan<\/strong>: The miners on Bitcoin chose Blockstream as a single software provider.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ForkLog: Do you think Blockstream is a mafia?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Stefan<\/strong>: I\u2019m not saying that. I love Bitcoin Core software developers, because a lot of it is also in Bitcoin Cash.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ForkLog: After the Bitcoin Cash hard fork in May the two biggest pools conducted a 51% attack on BCH chain to not let a bad guy to steal funds. Intentions seems to be good, but it proves that BCH chain is not censorship resistant. Do you agree?<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">\u203c\ufe0f<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/BCH?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">#BCH<\/a> \/<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/bcash?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">#bcash<\/a> was hit by 51% attack from just 2 miners, <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/gZNf6P1G3l\">https:\/\/t.co\/gZNf6P1G3l<\/a> &amp; <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/2gkV6KUcCt\">https:\/\/t.co\/2gkV6KUcCt<\/a><br \/>\n&#8211; &amp; no one seems to be talking about it. ?<\/p>\n<p>Thread ??<\/p>\n<p>1\/ What I&#8217;ve gathered from loose details:<br \/>\nFirst, there was an unintentional split with the recent <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/BCH?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">#BCH<\/a> &#8220;upgrade.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Guy Swann \u26a1[Pay me in Bitcoin] (@TheCryptoconomy) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/TheCryptoconomy\/status\/1131962447823278080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">May 24, 2019<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p><strong>Stefan<\/strong>: I don\u2019t know enough about that.<\/p>\n<p>[<em>Later Stefan said that he disagreed, but didn&#8217;t mention why<\/em>]<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_6949\" style=\"width: 830px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-6949\" class=\"wp-image-6949 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/u1f987.com\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/7709f64a-2161-4bfb-82cf-bea8a19e61f8-e1571594660947.jpeg\" alt=\"According to CEO of Bitcoin.com, BTC is Gold, BSV is Scam, and BCH is Money\" width=\"820\" height=\"596\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-6949\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Stefan Rust via news.bitcoin.com<\/p><\/div>\n<p><strong>ForkLog: In April only one account <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theblockcrypto.com\/linked\/22085\/one-bitcoin-cash-address-is-responsible-for-nearly-50-percent-of-the-networks-transactions-in-the-past-month\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">made<\/a> 49% of all BCH transactions. It repeated the same transaction &#8211; 0,0000132 BCH. It looked like a spam to make the network look more active than it actually was. What\u2019s your take on this?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Stefan<\/strong>: I don\u2019t know enough about that.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ForkLog: Let\u2019s switch to quick yes or no questions. It\u2019s my favourite part. Do you consider <a href=\"https:\/\/u1f987.com\/en\/bitcoin-cash-forked-splitting-into-two-blockchains\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Bitcoin SV<\/a> a scam?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Stefan<\/strong>: [<em>laughing<\/em>] What is your definition of a scam?<\/p>\n<p><strong>ForkLog: Roger Ver <a href=\"https:\/\/decrypt.co\/6874\/roger-ver-craig-wright-lawsuit\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">isn\u2019t afraid of calling<\/a> Craig Wright a liar and a fraud. As a CEO of Bitcoin.com do you consider Bitcoin SV a scam?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Stefan<\/strong>: [<em>sighing<\/em>] Yes. If I have to choose between yes or no, yes.<\/p>\n<p>[<em>According to Stefan, BSV is looking to be the blockchain for governments, because its supporters are constantly talking pro government and regulators<\/em>].<\/p>\n<p><strong>ForkLog: Perfect. Do you consider Craig Wright a liar?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Stefan<\/strong>: [<em>laughing<\/em>] Well, yes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ForkLog: Are you aware of toxic Bitcoin maximalists community?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Stefan<\/strong>: Yes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ForkLog: Say something to them.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Stefan<\/strong>: Freedom of speech! They have the right to voice their opinions. Go ahead!<\/p>\n<p><strong>ForkLog: Roger Ver once said: \u00abMaybe I was fooled by Craig Wright\u00bb. Is it possible that in the future Mr. Ver will say: \u00abI was fooled about big blocks?\u00bb.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/rFU1o-0oU7A\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><strong>Stefan<\/strong>: No.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ForkLog: What consequences will bring the obviously approaching financial crisis for bitcoin and crypto market on the whole?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Stefan<\/strong>: Bitcoin was launched in 2008, when we had a big financial crisis. I think the next financial meltdown will encourage people to use cryptocurrencies. We will see a surge in demand, which will ultimately lead to rise in prices. I don\u2019t think that it will be only one cryptocurrency, it\u2019s about many cryptocurrencies.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ForkLog: Do you remember my question about investing 90% of your wealth? You chose BCH. Let\u2019s imagine that it happened on August 1st, 2017. You would have lost over 30% with the BCH bet. If you would have chosen BTC, you had earned 200%. Any thoughts on that?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Stefan<\/strong>: We are here for the long term. We are here to build value making money work for everyone. It\u2019s not about the short term quick buck.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ForkLog: But BTC bet was better on August 1st, 2017.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Stefan<\/strong>: Yes, if you are here for a short term trading.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ForkLog: Are two years a short trade?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Stefan<\/strong>: I don\u2019t know\u2026 [<em>laughing<\/em>]. It depends when you got in. If you got in on that day and you still hold, maybe it\u2019s a good turnout. If you bought in January, 2018, what about it? Then you are probably not doing well? You will be crying. A lot of people are still passionate about crypto anyway. They are in.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ForkLog: So, you don\u2019t tolerate the shitcoin concept?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Stefan<\/strong>: I believe in alternative coins. I don\u2019t call them shitcoins.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ForkLog: The Bitcoin dominance is rising. Will altcoins survive?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Stefan<\/strong>: Some will survive, some will thrive and some will become obsolete and will disappear. The upside is going to be in altcoins.<\/p>\n<p><em>Stefan Rust was interviewed by <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/schteringard\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Nick Schteringard<\/a> on October 10th, 2019 during WDMS hosted by Bitmain in Frankfurt<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Follow us on <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/forklogmedia\">Twitter<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/forklogmedia\">Facebook<\/a> and join our <a href=\"https:\/\/t.me\/forklogmedia\">Telegram channel<\/a> to know what&#8217;s up with crypto and why it&#8217;s important.<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The recently appointed CEO of Bitcoin.com Stefan Rust learned about Bitcoin in 2012, when a developer from Guatemala asked him to pay in BTC. 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